{"id":22682,"date":"2022-04-28T11:52:41","date_gmt":"2022-04-28T18:52:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/greaternw.org\/news\/?p=22682"},"modified":"2022-04-28T11:54:13","modified_gmt":"2022-04-28T18:54:13","slug":"now-i-know-why-godly-punishment-never-made-sense-to-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/greaternw.org\/news\/now-i-know-why-godly-punishment-never-made-sense-to-me\/","title":{"rendered":"Now I know why Godly punishment never made sense to me"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

By Rev. Paul Graves<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Even as a child, I was mildly confused by how God could be loving and yet punish people with hell! As I near 80, that confusion about God is gone.\u00a0God lands on the side of Love<\/em>. Maybe it\u2019s we who are confused about why the Christian tradition has settled for controlling its followers with the threat of punishment both here and eternally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I can\u2019t \u201cturn the tide\u201d theologically. But I can offer people another valid way to look at God\u2019s relationship with you. There\u2019s always more than we settle for. That \u201cmore\u201d doesn\u2019t involve feeling captive to a doctrinal tradition that stymies your own spiritual journey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know advocating an alternative way to look at Jesus\u2019 death and life-mission will be welcomed by some of my readers. It will distress others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Put simply: I can no longer even mouth the words \u201cJesus died for our sins.\u201d It hasn\u2019t made sense to me for decades, and here is why.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some fact-based thoughts give me increased clarity on a tradition that countless Christians and non-Christians either embrace or reject. I can\u2019t believe a Gospel where God chooses to deny Jesus\u2019 primary, incarnational mission of showing humans how to love and be loved by God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yet what we hear so often is that we are helpless sinners who need Jesus to die in our place so God will love us. That is so contrary to what Jesus taught about and lived out through his unconditional love and grace!\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This deeply ingrained belief that\u00a0<\/em>Jesus was\u00a0a substitute sacrifice\u00a0isn\u2019t even in the Bible. Marcus Borg\u2019s book,\u00a0Speaking Christian\u2026<\/em>reminded me of how the 11th-century theologian, Anselm of Canterbury, began this belief.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A late-16th century line engraving of St\u00a0Anselm.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

In 1097\u00a0BCE, Anselm created a skillful but theologically faulty logic that God became a human in Jesus to pay the price for our human sinfulness. That nod to human depravity caught on. And continues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But Anselm\u2019s logic causes serious problems: 1) It distorts and dilutes the historical event of Jesus\u2019 cross-death by Roman and Jewish authorities because they were afraid of him; 2) Substitutionary sacrifice (a theological term for \u201cJesus died for our sins\u201d) implies God is basically punitive and bloodthirsty; 3) It focuses primarily on Christians as sinners; so even when we proclaim God loves us so much he let Jesus be killed, we\u2019re spiritually stuck on the \u201csinful\u201d part and forget we are made in God\u2019s loving image.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Additionally, when we become disciples of Anselm – rather than of Jesus – we\u2019re obsessively focused on an afterlife as \u201cour reward.\u201d Jesus-as-our-ticket-to-heaven takes our eyes and hearts away from Jesus\u2019 constant message that here-and-now is where God\u2019s Kingdom exists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here-and-now is where everyone\u2019s personal and social transformations must take place. Or what I\u2019ve heard for years about preachers comes true: We\u2019re so heavenly-minded that we\u2019re no earthly good. That\u2019s undoubtedly true for many preachers and non-preachers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But what\u2019s also true is that Jesus\u2019 presence in the Gospel stories is a constant reminder that he lived out God\u2019s love for all persons, as can we.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That love commands a practical spirituality that says personal transformation in each person can\u2019t stop with only individual healing (salvation). It also intends to result in some kind of social transformation that takes small, forward steps toward restorative justice and a social wholeness (peace). Both are always sorely needed in our families, communities, nation, and world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

God doesn\u2019t punish us! I can\u2019t help but imagine She is deeply grieved when we do such an effectively negative job of keeping each other \u201cin line,\u201d spiritually speaking.\u00a0God loves us too much for that!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The Rev. Paul Graves<\/strong> serves as the chair for the Council on Older Adult Ministries for the Pacific Northwest Conference of The United Methodist Church.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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