{"id":24205,"date":"2025-05-19T20:07:00","date_gmt":"2025-05-20T03:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/greaternw.org\/news\/?p=24205"},"modified":"2025-05-19T20:07:01","modified_gmt":"2025-05-20T03:07:01","slug":"when-the-pulpit-gets-it-wrong-a-pastor-models-how-to-make-it-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/greaternw.org\/news\/when-the-pulpit-gets-it-wrong-a-pastor-models-how-to-make-it-right\/","title":{"rendered":"When the pulpit gets it wrong: A pastor models how to make it right"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

In an age when misinformation spreads quickly and trust is easily eroded, this letter from Rev. Meredith Gudger-Raines exemplifies leading with humility, honesty, and care. Rather than doubling down on a mistake or quietly letting it pass, she chooses to acknowledge the error, reflect on its causes, and share her insights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As communications director for the annual conference, I spend a fair amount of time reflecting on how we talk with one another. Our use of social media leaves us particularly vulnerable to misinformation as it amplifies content based not upon its validity but instead upon its virality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I am sharing this letter today because Meredith offers us a demonstration of pastoral integrity and a reminder that truth-telling, especially when it\u2019s difficult, is a vital part of our witness. May you be inspired, as I was, by her message.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

grace&peace<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Patrick Scriven<\/strong>
Director of Communications | PNW Conference<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dear friends,<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I made a mistake that I must correct.  On Sunday, at the end of my sermon, I read a quote attributed to Pope Leo.  One of our former Catholic members sent it to me earlier that morning, and it fit so well, I quickly decided to pop it in at the end of my sermon.  After some research, I do not think Pope Leo, or Robert Prevost, actually said this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the days since Pope Leo\u2019s election, I\u2019ve seen people online saying that they loved that he has claimed to be woke and told people to be woke.  You might have seen a meme attributing the quote \u201cTo be called \u2018woke\u2019 in a world that sleeps through suffering is no insult\u201d to the new pope.  When I heard that, honestly, I dismissed it pretty quickly, attributing it to internet rumors and misinformation.  Why?  Several reasons.  \u201cWoke\u201d is obviously a very politically charged word, and I probably wouldn\u2019t use it in a sermon, as people would react to the word and not the underlying idea.  I couldn\u2019t see a Catholic priest, whose context is probably more politically diverse than mine, using it either.  Also, Robert Prevost spent most of his priestly life in Peru, where surely \u201cwoke\u201d isn\u2019t part of their vernacular the same way it is here.  To me, that quote sounded like someone trying to put their ideas in the pope\u2019s mouth to both gain credibility for the ideas and claim the pope for that particular idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now that that quote has had some days to circulate, it has made its way to the fact-checkers, who have indeed debunked it<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if I sniffed out the fake \u201cwoke\u201d quote so quickly, how did I get pulled in by the quote I shared on Sunday?  I think this is an excellent lesson in how easy it is to spread misinformation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

First, the quote shared with me sounded good.  I don\u2019t mean I agreed with it.  I did.  But by \u201csounded good,\u201d I mean that it sounded like something a former bishop or cardinal would say.  It sounded like the closing few paragraphs from a sermon.  It had a reference to a personal story, as if he\u2019d shared the whole story in a sermon.  It had enough revealing information to be memorable\u2014”I\u2019ve doubted God, too\u201d\u2014while sounding believable for a church leader.  It seemed reasonable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Second, I got it from a reliable source, someone who is closer to the Catholic Church than I am.  I assumed that they received it from a Catholic source, a newsletter or a church publication.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Third, I shared it quickly.  I didn\u2019t sit with the information.  It sounded good, and it fit what I was about to do, so I plugged it in spontaneously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I would categorize myself as an experienced news consumer, and I didn\u2019t catch this one.  It shows how easy it is to be pulled in by misinformation and fake news.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

How did I learn this quote was fake?  I did what I should have done before I shared it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

First, I googled specific phrases from the quote.  Did you know that if you put quotation marks around something, the search looks for exactly that order of words, not just keywords?  So I googled Pope Leo \u201chome for the homeless.\u201d  <\/em>Then I googled Robert Prevost \u201chome for the homeless.\u201d<\/em>  These searches only brought up Facebook posts.  Not a good sign.  Obviously, anyone can put anything on Facebook, so Facebook is not a reliable source.  A reliable source would have been a newspaper article from a publication that has clearly identified authors and publishers.  A reliable source would have been an official publication from the Catholic church, like a diocese.  A reliable source would have been a video from a worship service where Cardinal Prevost was presiding (although we know video now can be doctored).  I found none of these sources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(The organization that posted this quote on Facebook was actually a Catholic church, one in Louisiana.  You may think this is a reliable source, but they did the same thing I did\u2014saw a quote, thought it was good, and shared it.  The comment on this post included several people asking for the original source, and the church responding that they couldn’t actually find it.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Second, I realized that I made assumptions about my reliable source.  They are experienced, insightful, wise, and trustworthy.  I should have said, though, \u201cI love this quote!  Where did you find it?\u201d  Asking my reliable source for their<\/em> reliable source could have helped both of us figure out if this quote was authentic.  All of us have people we deeply respect, thoughtful people of deep faith, who are wise and loving.  We seek out their insights and trust them.  When it comes to secondhand information, though, even people we trust can pass along information from others that is not trustworthy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Third, I spent some time researching.  I just moved too fast on Sunday.  I went from \u201cI like that\u201d to \u201cI\u2019m going to tell others\u201d without pausing to do any of the fact-checking I should have done.  As a clergyperson with the power of the pulpit, that was not very responsible of me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These days, all of us have the power of a kind of pulpit, through social media.  We all need to make sure that we are passing along good information.  Misinformation is dangerous, not just because it can get us to believe things that aren\u2019t true.  The greatest danger, in my opinion, is that misinformation is so confusing that it can get us to believe that nothing<\/em> we see is true, that everything is suspect, that we cannot trust anything, that there is no truth<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is not true that there is no truth.  There is truth.  This is why I focused on truth as my Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday messages.  There is truth, and truth is God and God is true (John 1:1-14).  There are absolutely things we can rely on in this life, and we must trust them.  If we trust nothing and no one, our spirits will shrink and shrivel, love will contract, and evil will prevail.  If we give ourselves to what is true, our hearts will expand, love will grow, communities will be built, and evil will be resisted.  It\u2019s so important.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So I am very sorry that I shared this quote in a sermon without fact-checking.  Ugh, what a humbling experience.  The sentiment in the quote is certainly true: God is with us in the mud and the suffering.  God is with us when we\u2019re broken, when we\u2019re hurting.  We don\u2019t have to be perfect in faith; we just have to keep going in hope.  All that is true.  It is not true that Cardinal Robert Prevost or Pope Leo XIV said it.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, for the living of these days.<\/em>“
\u2014 \u201cGod of Grace and God of Glory,\u201d 577 United Methodist Hymnal, Abingdon Press, 1989 (A reliable source).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Love,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pastor Meredith<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Rev. Meredith Gudger-Raines<\/strong>\u00a0serves as pastor of\u00a0Marysville United Methodist Church<\/a>\u00a0in Marysville, Washington. Her letter was originally shared in the church’s newsletter.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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